Does a 1967 Dino Spider 2.0 have a lever to control idle?

[DinoinATL]

My 1967 spider has a lever arm on the lower left side pf steering wheel that controls the flaps on the air box (this is seemingly useless) but I wasn't sure if one of the other levers controls the idle/throttle bar on the carbs? If it does, mine may not be connected properly. Thanks!

[Gaelicguy]

The lever operating the flaps on the airbox is integral with the choke operation.
There is another lever to operate a crude cruise control, basically a hand throttle.
That is scary to use unless you are driving on a long highway with little traffic. Using you brakes does not cut it off like electronic cruise control.
It is useful for carb setting however.
Michael

[DinoinATL]

Gaelicguy.

Naive question but how is the air box choke expected to be used/operated? Should the airbox flap be closed when I am attempting to start the car?

[agnatus]

A choke, also called a choke valve, is a component in the carburetor of a gasoline engine that facilitates cold starting. It reduces airflow and enriches the fuel-air mixture during the starting process to create a richer mixture, which is necessary for a cold start.

so you have to pull the regulator to you ..

after a few minutes you can slowly push the regulator back... either at a standstill or of course when you are already driving the Dino... you will notice whether the engine is running smoothly and responds normally to the gas or not.

[agnatus]

Hello @DinoinATL..

Since I'm currently assembling my Dino Spider, I have a photo of the area where everything can be explained..

1 - is the lever for the airbox, which controls the fresh air intake in the footwell of the driver's cab (there is a lever on the left and right under the dashboard, each of which has a cable that opens a flap on the airboxes (behind the headlights). These are only for fresh air supply and have nothing to do with the engine or its starting.. (pic 2)

2 - is the choke cable (used for cold starts).. This cable adjusts the flaps on the air intakes in front of the air filter box and in the carburetors. This makes the fuel-air mixture "richer" and makes the engine start easier (when the cable is pulled, a light also lights up in the tachometer instrument (provided, of course, that the corresponding switch is installed and connected there at position 2).

3 - is the "hand throttle"... when you pull it, a cable operates the accelerator linkage as if you were accelerating. This is only useful if you're traveling long distances on highways with constant speed and don't always want to have your foot on the accelerator... or it can also be used as an assist if the engine isn't revving fast enough at idle.

4 - I installed this "hazard warning switch" and the corresponding plate because hazard warning lights are required for registration in Austria, and I didn't want to install the switch in a visible location (e.g., in the center console).

[DinoinATL]

Does a 1967 Series 1 car have the same levers/pulls?

Fiat made so many design iterations that I always have to ask whether someone is explaining a series 1 or series 2 car.

[Gaelicguy]

Ola all,
I’m currently stripping my ‘67 Spider # 665. From everything I’ve read and from watching Mark Devaneys comparison, my car is a series 2.

I don’t know what car Agnatus has, possibly a late 2.4 or maybe somebody modified his cable controls.
The photos below show the cable control just removed from my car. It matches the parts manual.
From left to right you have
Fresh air vent control
Choke control ( note in the Agnatus part diagram, the cable only controls the butterfly valves on the airbox! Mine pull the choke controls on the 3 carbs and continues to the airbox, so I’m assuming this car has the 4 bolt Webers) note also the switch for activating the warning light on the tach.
The last lever controls the hand throttle.

All were wired and functioning before I took it apart.

The second photo shows, the bonnet/hood release lever, which is the fresh air on Agnatus’s car. You can also see the large mounting bracket with the 3 levers, to the right of my thumb on the hood control.

I hope this doesn’t muddy the waters too much

Michael

[agnatus]

@DinoionATL
@Gaelicguy

Ask @Fanalone when the switch was made. He has a detailed list of all the changes throughout the Spider's history.

The (first) models of Series 1 (I have #0000222 and #0000259) were certainly like the ones in my photos in my previous post and like those in this picture.

User Fanalone knows best when the switch to the other version (photos by Gaelicguy and following picture) took place.

[agnatus]

According to Fanalone's list, the first Dino Spider 2000 Series 2 was the vehicle with
chassis number 0000524. / Pininfarina-Number 190501

The main changes were:

But of course, there were continuous further changes after that.

[Fanalone]

Good morning all

Well, the answear is standing just in front of you, on the pictures you have already posted.
According to the sparepart catalog the switch from DCN14 to DCNF, happened on Vett.No.726 (Vett No.= Nummero di Ricambi = Number for Spares):

Modifica C/D3284 - Series 1/2 switch: I still don`t know which Ricambi numbers there is on the Series 1/2 switch on Chassis 523/524 -190500/190501. (Is there anyone that knows if chassis 523/524 still exsist?)
Modifica C/D3245 - DCN14/ DCNF switch: I have noted that Ricambi No. 726 is on Chassis 746/ 190723, but I don`t have any photografic evidence on chassis 746!

PS!
My Chassis number & Ricambi number lists are available for download in the "Library" here on the FDF:
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